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Uterus transplants, you can now have a baby!

Postby Andina » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:57 am

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Postby Natasha_Lynn » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:10 pm

Obviously good news, but I'll stick with my childfree lifestyle 8)
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Postby PentacleGoddess » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:29 am

Wowwwww, fuck that headline though I swear that paper is such a rag

Also, not sure I'm super into the idea of being on anti-rejection immunosuppressants for probably forever just for the sake of having a womb.
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Re: Uterus transplants, you can now have a baby!

Postby Demon » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:28 am

I'm no expert, but it doesn't seem like it would be that easy. Doesn't male chromosomes have to fertilize a female DNA structure?

Natasha_Lynn wrote:Obviously good news, but I'll stick with my childfree lifestyle 8)

If so, how will the Natasha Lynn Lineage survive?
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Postby Natasha_Lynn » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:54 pm

demon wrote:
Natasha_Lynn wrote:Obviously good news, but I'll stick with my childfree lifestyle 8)

If so, how will the Natasha Lynn Lineage survive?


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Postby Bea » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:54 pm

Yah, I'll just adopt still. While my genes aren't undeserving of being passed onto another generation, there are enough kids in the world that need love already.
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Postby Cherry Cola Lola » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:43 pm

[quote="Bea"]Yah, I'll just adopt still. While my genes aren't undeserving of being passed onto another generation, there are enough kids in the world that need love already.[/quote]

Clearly the selfless decision, but not sure I could pass up such an opportunity, I suspect there will be some straight men that would go for it too. :thumb:

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I thought I had seen a story on the web about researches having transplanted embryos into chimpanzee or orangutans and successfully C sectioned live births but can't seem to find the story now. Not sure they even used a uterus and instead just transplanted into the abdominal cavity somewhere.

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Postby CeliaEriksson » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:33 am

No thank you. It is frickin' hard passing on all the offers of sweets, deliciousitical doughnuts and cakies to keep the tum trim and stretch mark free! This is an amazing advance though and many younglings will have the opportunity to start a family with the man they love.

It is obvious though that the egg would be donated, so it is still a form of surrogacy, but to have their own child nurtured within is a good thing for such women. Celia xx
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Re: Uterus transplants, you can now have a baby!

Postby Tara » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:59 pm

Demon wrote:I'm no expert, but it doesn't seem like it would be that easy. Doesn't male chromosomes have to fertilize a female DNA structure?


Yes, of course, but that's male chromosomes in the male spermatozoa (sperm) combining with female chromosomes in the ovum (egg). They don't have to be from the person who actually carries the embryo. That's how invitro fertilization works; sperm and eggs are mixed in the lab, the little wrigglers do their thing, and then a resulting embryo is implanted into a convenient uterus, which may or may not belong to the person who provided the egg.
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Re: Uterus transplants, you can now have a baby!

Postby Demon » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:04 pm

Tara wrote:
Demon wrote:I'm no expert, but it doesn't seem like it would be that easy. Doesn't male chromosomes have to fertilize a female DNA structure?


Yes, of course, but that's male chromosomes in the male spermatozoa (sperm) combining with female chromosomes in the ovum (egg). They don't have to be from the person who actually carries the embryo. That's how invitro fertilization works; sperm and eggs are mixed in the lab, the little wrigglers do their thing, and then a resulting embryo is implanted into a convenient uterus, which may or may not belong to the person who provided the egg.


But I want my own genes in it, not somebody else's.
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Postby Tara » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:00 pm

Demon wrote:But I want my own genes in it, not somebody else's.


Your own genes could come from the sperm, if you banked them before surgery. Your sperm would then be used to fertilize an egg from a cis woman, and then implanted into your transplanted uterus.

Cloning your genes into a donated egg, which is then fertilized with other sperm might eventually be possible. I'm pretty sure it's been done with mice, but humans are a bit more complicated. It would still be the donor's mitochondrial DNA, though.
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Re: Uterus transplants, you can now have a baby!

Postby Demon » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:32 pm

Tara wrote:
Demon wrote:But I want my own genes in it, not somebody else's.


Your own genes could come from the sperm, if you banked them before surgery. Your sperm would then be used to fertilize an egg from a cis woman, and then implanted into your transplanted uterus.

Cloning your genes into a donated egg, which is then fertilized with other sperm might eventually be possible. I'm pretty sure it's been done with mice, but humans are a bit more complicated. It would still be the donor's mitochondrial DNA, though.


Kind of seems a little too planned deliberate to me, kind of sucks the fun right out of it.

Imagine you are racing toy RC cars, but in the middle of the race, you have get out of your chair to pull a string and physically move the toy drawbridge around everytime before someone crosses it. That's what it feels like.

Or like you are watching a movie, and the DVD skips in the middle of the movie, so you have to drive back to the store and get a new DVD, but that one skips too, so you have to drive 3 extra miles to get another one, at another store, but that doesn't work either, so you have to go back to the first store and polish it. Kind of ruins the whole idea of watching a movie.
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Re: Uterus transplants, you can now have a baby!

Postby Natasha_Lynn » Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:54 pm

What do you mean sucks the fun out? Artificial insemination or whatever method involved doesn't mean you can't do the nasty with your SO.
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Re: Uterus transplants, you can now have a baby!

Postby Demon » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:15 am

Natasha_Lynn wrote:What do you mean sucks the fun out? Artificial insemination or whatever method involved doesn't mean you can't do the nasty with your SO.


But it all feels so staged deliberate and fake, like playing make believe and eating plastic toast.
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Postby Natasha_Lynn » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:00 pm

Demon wrote:But it all feels so staged deliberate and fake, like playing make believe and eating plastic toast.


The sex or the artificial insemination? I mean, plastic toast shouldn't be involved in either case.
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Re: Uterus transplants, you can now have a baby!

Postby helen2b » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:38 am

It's not going to happen for a good while yet for trans women. Although the know how is there, it's still got to get past the bodies that decide what is ethically correct and permissable. I was reading an article that suggested that allowing the procedure for a trans woman might be problematic because of the increased risk it exposes the unborn child to.
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