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Postby Angela a » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:04 am

Hi everybody. My name is Angela, and i have just begun my rebirth.
Guess i am cheating a little. I've decided to go slow in the beginning, so i've gone herbal. Will use up what i've got first, and see how that goes.
Would love to hear from some of you, and get your opinions.
Want to introduce E gradually, and either increase or change what i am taking. Not going to use AA'S yet. Slowly slowly the rock climbed the hill...
Have waited thirty odd years to get here. A little more time wont make much of a difference.
I have a distinct hatred for my lower region, and try not to look at them as much as i can. Made a few attempts to change their attitudes to my way of thinking, but alas, they're a stubborn lot. Hopefully in a year or two i will have either trained them or parted company. The latter being the preferred option :
Does anybody know how to shift the dreaded wings. Have a nice shape to the front of my boobs. But then . Well you know the rest. Hmmm...
Look forward to hearing from some of you.
Ps. No intention of coming out of any form of furniture. My situation doesn't allow for it. And really, i do not see the point anyway. Very happy the way things are, and in a way it gives me a little thrill when people look at him but can't see me. Like a game of hide and seek. And i'm winning.
Lots and lots girls...
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Re: Genetalia

Postby CeliaEriksson » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:17 am

Hi Angela!

Go easy with the herbs sweetheart, I'm not trying to be your Mom, they don't do much at all and can actually do your liver quite some damage. If you must and it's not the best option, spearmint tea, fennel tea and fenugreek in moderation is about all I would recommend as safe. I know there are people out there praising PM, Black Cohosh and all the others, but they are awful for your renal system, especially licorice root. So, spearmint tea would have a slight anti-androgenic effect, fennel has the most complex of phyto mixture found and is good for you too and the claims fenugreek boosts T is false and has been found safe up to 6 months usage at correct dosage unlike other herbs and it is why I recommend that one if you must take herbs at all, the results with these will be very little compared to hrt though.

Change your doctor if you are not wanting to see the one who knows you, (and perhaps your family?), and get yourself on hrt, if you wish to make a slow start now. Oh and quit the herbs, should you continue, fully when you want to go on hrt, they will need to be stopped a couple of months before starting anyway, it is a medical requirement. Best wishes hun. Celia xx
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Ritachans » Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:55 pm

Agree with the above message

I started with soymilk... I understand where youre coming from. I was unable to see anyone and I did soymilk for maybe 7-8 months.. I was drinking a quart a day... I figured it was healthy for me if nothing else. Cant say it did much. I also drank spearmint tea and ate flax seed. But again, nothing worked like the real thing. Just start, it will all fall into place... I was scared to start and took my pills very slowly at first... but within 10 days I was munching them like a fix, they made me feel right and I never looked back. Im at 2 years now and all the pieces are clicking together and Im glad I started HRT
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Angela a » Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:10 pm

Hi Celia and Rita.
Wrote a book this morning. And fortunately i couldn't post it it.
Ya see, i think i know everything, and you girls know nothing.
Thats the asshole showing his face.
I was going to give a long and detailed description about how clever i was.
I know nothing except that i am lost. I just want to be me. The real me..
Thanks for responding, and i hope we can talk again
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Angela a » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:09 am

Hi folks.
Just wondered if anyone felt like talking
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Angela a » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:22 am

Was looking at another site this morning. It seemed like there was nobody there but a bunch of guys growing boobs. Still feeling a bit sick after it.
Am i just one of THEM???? All my underclothes are womens. Am i a wierdo?? I tuck everyday. Is that right?? I dream of being a woman from dawn to dusk. I can even forget what the man side of me looks like until i have to look in a mirror.
Some of them had posted pictures. Horrible horrible. Is that what i will look like. Jesus, i don't want to be a circus freak. I want to be me. The real me..
Please will somebody kick me up the ass
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Angela a » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:06 am

My hormones are running riot. Was grand this morning. Now in the throes of complete and utter depression. How and why is this possible. Fed up. Does this go away? What is it like when you finally go all the way and achieve full womanhood? Do you still have to deal with this pain even then
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Kay » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:45 am

What hormones are you taking?
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Angela a » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:04 am

Hi Kay.
A mixture of herbs. I know a lot of people say they don't work.
But right now, i do feel strangely better than i have for a long while. I suffer from depression and my lows are really bad. But lately i just feel weepy, and not the full blown bang.
This i feel , must be the effect the herbs are having on me. If so, for that reason alone i will keep taking them. Not really on them that long to notice much difference physically. But i really do feel much calmer. Most days now i feel good.
Can you answer any of my questions. I really want to know what its like to wake up each morning to the new you.
How differently do you feel. What are you happy/unhappy about.
Would love to hear back from you Kay. Guess i need somebody to talk to about all this stuff
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Kay » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:23 am

It feels amazing to be in the right body and to finally be me (orgasms, wow!) except that I'm still trying to figure out the hormonal situation as I feel a little under the weather sometimes, fatigued mentally/physically.

Remember...be you and screw the rest of the world! ;)
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Angela a » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:13 am

Thanks Kay.
I'm taking red clover pills, and i think they seem to work with the tiredness. Was taking b6 but they were making my stomach a bit queazy. But they did boost my energy some.
How long have you been(the real)you? Are you happy the way it worked out for you?
What meds do you use? So many questions Kay, but i've never been able to ask before. In the dark about so many things
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Angela a » Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:08 pm

Hi again Kay.
Hope you don't mind me talking crap again. I drink too much.
Thanks again for replying to my last post.
Feeling lonely. Wanna cry, but
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Angela a » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:58 am

Hi all.
Small update, and a few points of interest.
Went at the pm in earnest. I am using the powder mixed with wild yam cream and a body lotion.
Also, gave my system a good shock with the red clover tablets. They are 1000mg, and i was popping eight or nine per day for a week. Result: what a sickness. Lasted two days. Yesterday was the worst, had pain in every joint of my body. Terrible weakness, and my head was all over the place.
Today i am going back on the correct dosage.
The cream seems to be having some effect on my genitals.
Hope nobody minds me being too discriptive.
I used the body lotion on its own for a few weeks to soften thescrotum. Once i began using the cream, i have had to apply it three to four times per day(also applied it to my breasts) it gets absorbed very quickly. It now feels like a dull throb down there, and they do look a little smaller. Whats interesting is that the head of my penis seems to have swelled. And for a day or two, seemed to be semi-erect all the time. Foreskin is very tight. My boobs are just the same, except that they tingle a little. Using a nipple pump right after applying the cream. Love touching them now. Hoping the pump helps open the pores, to allow more of the cream to be absorbed. But for the mo they are lovely and sensitive to the touch.
I will post here again in a week or two. I have left out a few things that may or may not be of interest. But i will kno better about them then.
Would love to prove once and for all if herbals do work. We'll see
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Demon » Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:45 am

Angela a wrote:Was looking at another site this morning. It seemed like there was nobody there but a bunch of guys growing boobs. Still feeling a bit sick after it.
Am i just one of THEM???? All my underclothes are womens. Am i a wierdo?? I tuck everyday. Is that right?? I dream of being a woman from dawn to dusk. I can even forget what the man side of me looks like until i have to look in a mirror.
Some of them had posted pictures. Horrible horrible. Is that what i will look like. Jesus, i don't want to be a circus freak. I want to be me. The real me..
Please will somebody kick me up the ass


What was the name of this site, it sounds hilarious. I've been down in the dumps all morning and I think this is just the thing to brighten my day.

As far as soy goes I was raised on it as a child. I was a soyboy always shy quiet and picked on by people. But now I am the top dog, the one who knocks, the last shall be first and the first shall be last.

In any case, I'm not sure if soy works for adults if you had missed the opportunity as a child. I do empathize with your predicament and I appreciate your vigor of Science. Please report back to me if the herbals produce any physical changes, or only mental ones. I am also interested to know its effects on facial features.
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Angela a » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:28 am

Hi D.
From what i've read, it seems to be just a lightening of the features. All were definite about the facial hair not being affected(bummer). Seems i should expect an improvement on top. Hope thats right. If ya want to check that site out, its a company promoting pm. Something to do with boobs n such like. Dont ruin your dinner. Leave it
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Demon » Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:41 am

Angela a wrote:Hi D.
From what i've read, it seems to be just a lightening of the features. All were definite about the facial hair not being affected(bummer). Seems i should expect an improvement on top. Hope thats right. If ya want to check that site out, its a company promoting pm. Something to do with boobs n such like. Dont ruin your dinner. Leave it
Lol

Lol. Promoting pm? I don't know what that is. By lightening do you mean softening or something else?
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Angela a » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:08 pm

Hi D. Gonna try this again.
Had the whole bliody book written and ready to go.but bang , lost. And it was probably my best musings.
Too drunk now to give an asses ass about anything.
Whats the story with you. Why are you sitting there with the finger on the trigger? Ya sound pissed off. Ya cant be any worse than the rest of us. You need to call yourself something nice. Dont think that you are the devils spawn.
Follow my pro on my other posts.
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Angela a » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:23 pm

Well feck it d.
Thought my last rant had gone missing in tbe ethernet.
Well anyway, still look like a rather dodgy looking male prostitute. And unless i get hit by a highly motivated no7 from holloway to turnpike lane double decker with a radicalised homopaddy driver, tis over for me in de looks department.
I am now officially on the " turn that bitch around" warpath. And just to piss you off Sheila, i think i'll call you Sheila. Loves
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Demon » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:45 am

Angela a wrote:Hi D. Gonna try this again.
Had the whole bliody book written and ready to go.but bang , lost. And it was probably my best musings.
Too drunk now to give an asses ass about anything.
Whats the story with you. Why are you sitting there with the finger on the trigger? Ya sound pissed off. Ya cant be any worse than the rest of us. You need to call yourself something nice. Dont think that you are the devils spawn.
Follow my pro on my other posts.
Love ya, and take care

Love you too Angela. My demon moniker is for several reasons. I'm not really a goodie two shoes but I try to be good person because I was born an angel. My religion is somewhat different than mainstream, I dont believe people go to hell for eternity. So a demons role is role is to punish the wicked. A demon must be free of the rules and hypocrasy of mankind.
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Demon » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:47 am

Angela a wrote:Well feck it d.
Thought my last rant had gone missing in tbe ethernet.
Well anyway, still look like a rather dodgy looking male prostitute. And unless i get hit by a highly motivated no7 from holloway to turnpike lane double decker with a radicalised homopaddy driver, tis over for me in de looks department.
I am now officially on the " turn that bitch around" warpath. And just to piss you off Sheila, i think i'll call you Sheila. Loves

I hope the best for you and wanting some way to help.
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Angela a » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:25 pm

Just realised how easy it is to die.
Wanted to tell my sister about who i am. Couldn't do it. When i got to my bed, i took my tabs. Then i thought could i not just take some more. Looking at the bag now. But i dont want to die. I just want to be me. Why is that so fucking hard. D, what a shit life we have. Love ya pet. So pissed off.
Gotta tell someone soon . Its killing me.
Be good and nice to people D. Think you are..
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Demon » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:03 am

Angela a wrote:Just realised how easy it is to die.
Wanted to tell my sister about who i am. Couldn't do it. When i got to my bed, i took my tabs. Then i thought could i not just take some more. Looking at the bag now. But i dont want to die. I just want to be me. Why is that so fucking hard. D, what a shit life we have. Love ya pet. So pissed off.
Gotta tell someone soon . Its killing me.
Be good and nice to people D. Think you are..

I know the feels. I felt that yesterday. Sometimes I want to die because I think I know what the afterlife is. But logically, I have no evidence so I doubt and lose faith. That is why im still here, afraid to die because I'm not totally sure what comes next. They say how could someone have their heart broken so many times and still be there, well that's your answer.

So my advice to you is, tell ur therapist or doc your trans. They aren't legally allowed to tell anyone. Or just talk to strangers or homeless about it, if you're worried about it ruining your social life.

I don't know why life is so hard. I just wish humans would evolve. But thankfully there are evolved beings like you and me. ^^
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Re: Genetalia

Postby marie » Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:48 am

I'm guessing your Irish or a plastic paddy? I am a feckin one anyway. First off you're wasting time and money on the herbs. Any effect is minimal or placebo. Frankly the drinking will have a greater effect and you need to cut that out too.

Guess how I know all this? Been there done that.

You need to get your head together and stop the self loathing.


If you want more help post on the more useful transgender discussion forum here.

Try not to post drunk.
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Demon » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:43 pm

marie wrote:I'm guessing your Irish or a plastic paddy? I am a feckin one anyway. First off you're wasting time and money on the herbs. Any effect is minimal or placebo. Frankly the drinking will have a greater effect and you need to cut that out too.

Guess how I know all this? Been there done that.

You need to get your head together and stop the self loathing.


If you want more help post on the more useful transgender discussion forum here.

Try not to post drunk.

Listen I want her do the herbs to prove once and for all whether or not the herbs are useless.
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Re: Genetalia

Postby marie » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:31 pm

Ok Demon, I unignored you because you make sense this time. Actually everything you said in this thread is good. I agree. They've are useless but we need to try it.
She needs help we both know it.
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Demon » Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:38 am

marie wrote:Ok Demon, I unignored you because you make sense this time. Actually everything you said in this thread is good. I agree. They've are useless but we need to try it.
She needs help we both know it.

Thankyou.
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Angela a » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:31 am

Cant post. Whats wrong
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Angela a » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:42 am

Here we go again.
Thanks for the backup D.
Yea, this really must be tried. Using measured quantities that i know my body can take i think is the key. Trial and error. Have tried looking for clinical trials carried out. But they only exist if you are a mouse or rat.
I am giving this a shot because i do not want to poisin my system with synthetics. If it works to any degree, then that must be a plus. Apologies Marie for ranting here on my bad days. Dont have the option of blurting it out loud.
Reaching the end of phase one in a week or two. Will post any results so far then.
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Angela a » Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:00 am

Marie.
When you say been there done that, what do you mean?
What kind of herbs did you use? How much, and how often?
Nobody that i have read of has actually tried using proper certified h's. Nor has there been any research properly conducted on people like us. I know i am repeating myself, but thats what patricias do love. Were you prescribed or did you just go ahead and buy stuff.

Finally, did you go and get the "real" stuff, and if so, how did you get on?
Really want to hear back from you M
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Re: Genetalia

Postby marie » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:07 am

No one prescribes them. I tried them all red clover,.saw Palmetto, fenugreek and the rest. I'm not the only one. The doses required for them to work are too high. I don't know where you'll get the 'real' stuff.

Basically you will be experimenting on yourself. You will most likely poison yourself. Much better to be under of a professional.

Frankly beer will have a greater impact on breast development and suppressing your sex drive.
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Angela a » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:00 am

What about pm? Look, i'm trying to work all this out. And you are not helping in any way by giving me veiled answers. All i wanted you to tell me was what herbs you took, for how long and in what kind of dosages. The other stuff is the prescribed "stuff". I am not looking for it. I wondered if you were on it?
I'm trying to do this as clinically as is possible. I have researched what i am on as much as i can. And i can find no official studies carried out on biological males. Except them bloody mice that is. As you said, you have tried them all. And i would like to get any kind of feedback from you about your experiences with them. It would really help me.
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Re: Genetalia

Postby Angela a » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:48 am

Hi all.
Update time.
Nothing significant so far. Hair a little softer and darker. No noticable regrowth so far.
Facial hair is after slowing a little.
Body odour does not smell the same.
My fingernails were very brittle before. Not so now. And growing mad.
Boobs are still the same size, but feel heavier. Nipples are a little sore and sensitive to the touch.
I added an aftersun lotion to the cream, and it seems to have reversed the shrinkage down below in a matter of days. May well be the cooling properties in the lotion. Back to body lotion. Also seems important to raise the temperature down there, and creams containg parabens seem to have that effect. 4 to 5 degrees higher than the body is necessary to affect testosterone production. Interesting journey so far. Keeping a photo album for comparisons later on. Forgot to take before pics of my scalp. Pity.
Anyway. Not long at this, and a long way to go. Fingers crossed
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